Episode Transcript

He Said, She Said
Episode 120: July 25, 2008

Grammar Girl here.

Today’s topic is “How to Use Attributives”

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Guest writer Sal Glynn writes:

Dialogue is hard to write and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. Getting characters to have individual voices has caused more sleepless nights than too much coffee late in the day. Once the dialogue sounds right and reads right on the page, there is the problem of attributives.

An attributive, also known as identifier or signifier, is the “he said, she said” that show the reader who is saying what. Writers who try to get around them will find themselves more confused than their anticipated readership.

Attributives and How to Avoid Them

Use the name of the speaker if it's not already established so the reader can get right into the scene. Attributives can be placed in the middle of a line of dialogue, as in:

“Nasty as the job may be,” said Henrik, “the goat needs a good scrubbing.”

Trust your ear in deciding where to insert. Never break into the dialogue with:

“Nasty as the job,” said Henrik, “may be, the goat needs a good scrubbing (1).”

For a short line of dialogue, attributives usually go at the end, like so:

“Help me find my leopard skin pillbox hat,” said Daphne.

You can avoid attributives by using the name of the character being addressed, as in:

“Daphne, your leopard skin pillbox hat is on top of the refrigerator.”

“Go scrub a goat, Henrik.”

When two characters are speaking, attributives are only necessary for the characters' first appearances.

“That’s an attractive hammer,” he said.

“A family heirloom,” she said.

“I never would have guessed.”

“You don’t look like the guessing type.”

The reader will keep track of “he said” and “she said” after the preliminary exchange. Further attributives will slow down what promises to be an interesting conversation.

Creative Attributives

Simplicity is the rule in attributives. Many writers try to think for the reader by replacing “said” with words like grunted, growled, demanded, bellowed, cooed, roared, squalled, and simpered. If the tone of the dialogue is not immediately apparent, rewrite the dialogue and not the attributive.

This goes double for adding adverbs like belligerently, arrogantly, haughtily, angrily, coquettishly, happily, slavishly, and jokingly. Before using any of these or others, ask yourself how someone would sound if they spoke in that manner. When the answer comes back, “I don’t know,” rewrite the dialogue until you do.

Writing for Readers

Many writers rebel at the idea of “he said, she said.” They complain of the blandness and they are right. “He said, she said,” is transparent on purpose. The writer’s job is to put the dialogue into the mind of the reader (2). With too much information, readers have no room to make the story their own. As Kurt Vonnegut wrote in comparing films to novels, “There are tens of thousands of A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess, since each reader has to cast, costume, direct, and design the show in his head (3).” The simple attributive makes for a livelier scene.

Now that you understand attributives, remember the quick and dirty rule is keep them simple and where they belong.

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The Dog Walked Down the Street: An Outspoken Guide for Writers Who Want to Publish

Also, thanks again to this week's guest-writer Sal Glynn, author of The Dog Walked Down the Street: An Outspoken Guide for Writers Who Want to Publish, which won best writing /publishing book at last year's IPPY awards. Find out more about Sal at his blog, http://dogwalkeddownthestreet.blogspot.com.

That's all. Thanks for listening.

References

1. Lukeman, Noah. The First Five Pages. NY: Simon & Schuster, 2000.

2. Piercy, Marge and Ira Wood. So You Want to Write. Wellfleet, MA: Leapfrog Press, Inc., 2005.

3. Vonnegut, Jr., Kurt. Between Time and Timbuktu. NY: Dell Publishing, 1972.


Comments (14) for He Said, She Said |  Subscribe to Comment

lunarsky Says:
12/10/2008 6:02:44 AM
What is the difference of he says and he said but they are both reported speech. A writer visited a country and after that he writes. he says and he said in one article. However, he is referring to an opinions or utterances in the past. Any explanations? I have learned about reported speech rules.
jennifer Says:
7/29/2008 9:49:24 AM
for some reason this discussion cracked me up. i have an image of Henrik scrubbing his goat, and Daphne supervising, wearing her leopard skin pillbox hat.
amy Says:
7/28/2008 6:00:56 PM
That tip was very helpful. Thank you.
rpmason Says:
7/28/2008 5:12:12 PM
Marilyn, it is my wont to use a dictionary when I want to know which homonym is which.
Marilyn Rouse Says:
7/28/2008 2:42:11 PM
When do you use "wont" or "want"? Thank you for your time and attention. Marilyn
Curious Boy Says:
7/28/2008 1:53:05 PM
Sal Glynn's comments are consistent with Leanord Elmores rules 3 and 4 of his famous "10 rules of writing." 3. Never use a verb other than “said” to carry dialogue. The line of dialogue belongs to the character; the verb is the writer sticking his nose in. But said is far less intrusive than grumbled, gasped, cautioned, lied. I once noticed Mary McCarthy ending a line of dialogue with “she asseverated,” and had to stop reading to get the dictionary. 4. Never use an adverb to modify the verb “said” . . . . . . he admonished gravely. To use an adverb this way (or almost any way) is a mortal sin. The writer is now exposing himself in earnest, using a word that distracts and can interrupt the rhythm of the exchange. I have a character in one of my books tell how she used to write historical romances “full of rape and adverbs.”
Jen Says:
7/27/2008 5:53:21 PM
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Taylor Says:
7/26/2008 3:30:29 AM
Or is that: irregardless? :P
Taylor Says:
7/26/2008 12:42:09 AM
Of course, for every rule, there are those who break them. One of my favorite books, Ragtime, by E.L.Doctorow, does not even use quotation marks--let alone paragraph breaks between speakers. It's confusing, and I still don't understand why he chose to do that, but I love the book regardless.
Grammar Girl Says:
7/26/2008 12:29:09 AM
Yes, Beth. We meant "adverbs." Thanks for pointing out the problem.
Beth Says:
7/25/2008 3:30:08 PM
"This goes double for adding adjectives like belligerently, arrogantly, haughtily, angrily, coquettishly, happily, slavishly, and jokingly." Don't you mean adverbs, not adjectives?
Eric Says:
7/25/2008 1:09:48 PM
Thanks for the help, but I learned a few different things than you mentioned. In the "He said, she said" script, each person deserves their own paragraph. The family heirloom hammer broke that rule. Placing the attribute at the end of even a short sentence is problematic. We need to know who is speaking, then what they said. Otherwise, our mind might have the wrong person talking, and confusion reigns. Simple attributes can also include "He asked, She answered" dialogue, but no one ever can say 'She smiled, "Hello."' She can smile a hello (non-verbal), or 'She smiled. "Hello."' (two sentences. two actions) Long conversations ought to have the attributes frequently used. It is easy to lose track unless the dialogue is so witty that we know who is saying what. Attribution is required each time with three or more possible speakers. Anyone have others?
Quick and Dirty Tips Says:
7/25/2008 2:09:17 AM
We are aware of the problem and have our technical staff looking into it.
cha Says:
7/25/2008 2:00:10 AM
I can't listen this episode and even download.. Why? Is it just my problem? How about you, freins?

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