Episode Transcript

Strunk and White
Episode 166: April 17, 2009

Grammar Girl here.

Today's topic is The Elements of Style by Strunk and White.

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50 Years of Stupid Grammar Advice

Fifty years ago this month, Strunk and White's The Elements of Style as we know it today was published*, and in honor of the occasion, the noted linguist and grammarian Geoffrey Pullum
has written a scathing review of the book in the Chronicle of Higher Education titled "50 Years of Stupid Grammar Advice"; and many people who listen to this podcast or subscribe to my e-mail newsletter have written in to ask what I think.

Well, I know many of you love that book, but Pullum backs up every one of his criticisms, for example pointing out that Strunk and White's examples in the "Use Active Voice" section are strangely contrived, and the examples of passive voice sentences aren't actually passive voice sentences. It's hard to argue with that.

Styles Versus Rules

But I have my own beef with “Strunk and White,” which doesn't so much relate to the content, but instead to the hallowed status so many writers give the book. I can forgive a few errors, although after 50 years you'd think someone would have fixed them. But the tragedy to me is that “Strunk and White” is the only grammar book so many people have ever studied, and nobody bothered to tell them, or they didn't remember, that the book is largely about style choices, not hard-and-fast rules. A style guide is, by definition, a book that in large part prescribes how a writer should treat things that could go either way--style choices. But the thing that makes the book so popular--Strunk's simple bold statements--makes people believe that style choices are actually rules.

Even before Pullum's review I gave an interview to Time Out New York in which I noted that the most striking thing about The Elements of Style is that nobody seems to pay attention to the introduction in which White himself undermines much of the book's credibility, or at least takes great pains to point out that the book is not the inerrant grammar ruling of God that so many people seem to think it is.

First, Strunk and White weren't people who devoted their lives to studying grammar, and they didn't work together to create The Elements of Style. William Strunk taught English at Cornell and wrote the first version of the book--which was only 43 pages--for his English students at Cornell. In a sense, the book was his own personal style guide.

White was a brilliant writer; he's the same White who wrote Charlotte's Web and Stuart Little, but he wasn't a linguist or grammarian. He was hired to revise the book for re-release after Strunk died, and he nearly doubled the length of the book with his additions.

White's Attempt to Temper the Book's Directives

In his introduction White recounts that he gave the book "a thorough overhaul--to correct errors, delete bewhiskered entries, and enliven the argument," and of Strunk's recommendations White said, "He had a number of likes and dislikes that were almost as whimsical as the choice of a necktie, yet he made them seem utterly convincing...Will Strunk loved the clear, the brief, and the bold, and his book is clear, brief, and bold. Boldness is perhaps its most distinguishing mark...[Strunk] felt it was ‘worse to be irresolute than to be wrong.'" These are all the characteristics that led Strunk to state his recommendations as strong rules. I think it's pretty funny that according to White, Strunk advised students, "If you don't know how to pronounce a word, say it loud!"

And Strunk wasn't afraid to make up words. According to White, Strunk "Despised the expression 'student body,' which he termed gruesome, and made a special trip downtown to the Alumni News office one day to protest the expression and suggest the [the word] 'studentry' be substituted--a coinage of his own, which he felt was similar to 'citizenry.'” Now if a newspaper today started using a made up word like "studentry" instead of "student body," I know many of you would write to me to complain about it.

And White continues in his introduction to point out that their book is just one point of view. For example, when talking about how to make a word that ends with "s" possessive, White says, "Style rules of this sort are, of course, somewhat a matter of individual preference, and even the established rules of grammar are open to challenge."

Accept the Limitations

But, because the main text ignores style choices and makes bold statements that sound like rules, “Strunk and White” is easy to teach. There's no acknowledgement that there are different ways of doing things, and that's my main criticism of the book. It's written in a way that encourages students to believe the recommendations are rules, and often introductory English teachers teach it as though the recommendations are rules, ignoring White's own introduction in which he is very clearly trying to temper that point of view.

I sympathize with teachers; I know it's easier to teach rules than styles where you have to explain that there's this way of doing something, but there's also that way of doing something, but that's the reality of the English language. “Strunk and White” is a fine addition to anyone's library, but it shouldn't be the only book you ever consult, and if you're arguing with someone about a style choice, you don't automatically win just because you can say, "Strunk and White said so."

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*The original version of The Elements of Style was self-published by Strunk for use in his English class at Cornell.


Comments (15) for Strunk and White  |  Subscribe to Comment

mmi Says:
7/18/2009 10:11:35 AM
"But the tragedy to me is that 'Strunk and White' is the only grammar book so many people have ever studied, and nobody bothered to tell them, or they didn't remember, that the book is largely about style choices, not hard-and-fast rules." Incorrect! It is about rules that we should all follow. If there were obedience to the rules, all would be happier. It is the ultra-left-wing anarchy that GG espouses that causes so much distress. We see it in all parts of life (e.g., now in politics, when the electorate has ruined America with leftists taking over the White House and dominating both houses of Congress). The nation is going down the tubes.
Betsy Says:
6/25/2009 5:27:24 PM
My 11th grade English teacher made us memorize Rule 13. I can still recite it, and still wholeheartedly disagree with it
tony Says:
5/21/2009 8:02:46 PM
"...if you're arguing with someone about a style choice, you don't automatically win just because you can say, "Strunk and White said so." Yes, you do.
Gabe Says:
5/3/2009 4:15:26 AM
The linguist's name is Geoff Pullum, not Pullman.
SueJ Says:
4/23/2009 9:50:53 PM
No. Really. You are kidding. He said, "Say it loud" ?!?!? Not Loudly??? I'm inordinately fond of E.B. White... and of not beginning sentences with "but" without extreme provocation ;)
Eric Says:
4/22/2009 1:35:00 PM
Kat, no apologies necessary. "I feel your pain." I'm surrounded by engineers, like myself, who can perform complex calculations, but they haven't a clue how to write a sentence. Some will take computer code and write each command into English to describe its function. I once reviewed a page of text: one paragraph and just one sentence covering the entire page. Once a typical engineer learns a grammar guideline, it become an ironclad rule. This is not all bad for technical writing. It leaves us to debate "useful topics" such as whether data can be used as a singular noun, instead of datum.
Donna Says:
4/21/2009 8:01:18 PM
I've seen criticism of The Elements of Style off and on for a bit now. I wouldn't consider it a style guide (and yes, I am a professional tech writer). Its advice is too general for an in-house detailed guide. However, I *do* remember it as an introduction to grammar and structure in high school. It's one of many decent references out there to a novice writer or a learning writer. Personally, I like Elements. It was written at a time when so few guides were so available and were short, sweet, and to the point. It also presented how to write clearly, succinctly, and with personality--and it also was an encouraging read for someone learning to write, not some heavy, monotonous tome.
Kat Says:
4/21/2009 7:00:49 PM
Eric, I was not trying to insult—I too am an engineer. And in my experience, many engineers write poorly. Granted, my evidence is anecdotal and of a relatively small sample size--50 to 100 people. I do not think engineers are stupid. On the contrary, I know they are quite intelligent. That's what makes the poor writing I see depressing. People smart enough to be engineers are perfectly capable of writing well but the importance of doing so is never emphasized. For example, engineering professors almost never deduct a significant number of points for a report that is incomprehensible due to poor writing. I'm not arguing that the lab work shouldn't count, just that the actual report should matter more than it does. After all, it doesn't matter what you did if you can't explain the results in a way that other people can understand. Unfortunately, since students are not penalized for writing poorly, they never make the effort to write well. Nevertheless, my point was not that engineers in particular write poorly, but that the public in general writes poorly.
Grammar Girl Says:
4/21/2009 6:22:07 PM
If I had to choose just one style guide, I'd choose "Garner's Modern American Usage." It's much more complete and balanced than "The Elements of Style." My favorite book on punctuation is "Punctuate it Right."
rpmason Says:
4/20/2009 3:59:44 PM
I have been a professional writer for more than 20 years and still have an old copy of the book. I don’t take it off the shelf often, but it's nice to browse through now and then. When you're a college freshman and all the formal grammar knowledge you have is less than stellar, it's a good start. So consider the audience. You probably could find a better "little book" on style and usage, but it still fills a need.
Eric Says:
4/20/2009 1:05:38 PM
Kat, I are an injuneer. Is you saying we write not so good? We be good with rules.
Kat Says:
4/19/2009 10:23:42 PM
I'd like to offer a differing perspective. I bought and read Elements because I wanted to become a better writer for work. I am not a professional writer in the traditional sense; I am a professional writer in the sense that I write appraisals, awards packages, emails, and reports every day. I believe there are a lot of people out there like me. Grammar Girl, while your comments (and Mr. Pullman's) are certainly valid, I think they miss the point. Elements has not endured because it is the be all, end all guide for the professional writer and the individual who spends "too much of my scholarly life studying English grammar in a serious way". Elements has endured because it provides simple guidelines (rules if you will) that average people can use to improve their writing. Having proofread more than my fair share of bad writing (I work with engineers), I can attest that being clear and brief is not self evident to most people. On the contrary, many people try to construct complex sentences and use big words to sound more sophisticated. They often use passive sentences similar to "My first visit to Boston will always be remembered by me," the stylistic train wreck Mr. Pullman wants writers to avoid. The particular style Strunk & White advocates is also responsible for its enduring legacy. The writing style is short, bold, and vibrant--exactly the type of prose that businesses like to see. While Mr. Pullman seems to think that Elements of Style is responsible for the denigration of the English language, I challenge him to come down from the ivory tower and read the average business report. If Mr. Pullman ever gets the chance to read some everyday writing, I think he would beg people to use any style guide, even if it is Elements of Style. Yes, there are other style guides. Authors and English professors would be foolish to ignore them. However, I believe Elements of Style is ideal for average people who are not looking for literary immortality, just ways to improve their day-to-day writing.
Paula Says:
4/19/2009 2:48:36 PM
I didn't realize that each answer was a button until later, and so I took the quiz twice. Then I took it again to see the span of prompts you would provide depending on score. Cute widget. I'll see if I can fit it on our website.
Jeff Says:
4/19/2009 12:52:13 AM
In the "Prolog" of The Perrin-Smith Handbook of Current English, Second Edition (Scott, Foresman and Co., 1962), the authors write, " In the long run, developing a feeling for language and taking an interest in it as an activity will do more to promote Good English than will memorizing facts and rules." Isn't that what Grammar Girl is all about, and why Geoffrey Pullman has chosen to take issue with Strunk and White's The Elements of Style? As George Carlin said in one of his most famous comedy routines, "Words are all we have really."
Eric Says:
4/17/2009 1:10:04 PM
Grammar Girl, how about providing a listing of various style guides and your personal likes/dislikes of them? To just criticize Elements of Style and provide no other style guide seems to be placing this reference in the top position without any real rival. We still get into the debates whether one space or two should follow a sentence. We argue about whether reports should be just left-justified or left/right-justified. These are not writing styles, but publishers' styles. I imagine every publisher has their own set of style, but how many are in the public domain, and which ones are worth following?

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